Alright guys here's a good one. I have artillary fungus on one side of my house and sofwashing didn't touch it. Looked at a job today and guess what, it's there too. From things I have read this is virtually impossible to remove even with a pressure washer and nobody seems to have the answer with chemicals. Anyone have advice?
AC Lockyer said
Sep 27, 2012
Guitar Pick or a plastic putty knife! Sorry its a totally by hand thing.
AC
Danny Cronauer said
Sep 27, 2012
I have been waiting for AC to make something for years!
Jason Heath said
Sep 27, 2012
AC Lockyer wrote:
Guitar Pick or a plastic putty knife! Sorry its a totally by hand thing.
AC
Any ideas on what to do with those annoying little stains left behind after picking them all off?
AC Lockyer said
Sep 27, 2012
PreferredSoftWashing wrote:
AC Lockyer wrote:
Guitar Pick or a plastic putty knife! Sorry its a totally by hand thing.
AC
Any ideas on what to do with those annoying little stains left behind after picking them all off?
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser or Wesley's Tire Shine. I'd carry a little cleaning supplies tote that has all your little bag-o-trick items in it.
AC
AC
Doug Rucker said
Sep 27, 2012
Whenever you are trying to remove the leftover stains with any type of chemical always do a test spot to make sure the chemical doesn't damage the vinyl. For removing on vinyl and glass I have found that using a handheld or pump sprayer mixed with a soap/surfactant then applied to the fungus and GENTLY scraped with a not to sharp PLASTIC putty knife will work. The soap make them very slippery and easier to remove. I have also found that using your pressure washer with and adjustable gun, and adjusting the flow down so you can get right up on the fungus works well too.
Anytime there is oxidation I do not remove the fungus, this can cause marks from the method of use to appear.
Changing the mulch to an inorganic mulch sometimes helps but not always.
AC Lockyer said
Sep 27, 2012
Doug Rucker wrote:
Anytime there is oxidation I do not remove the fungus, this can cause marks from the method of use to appear.
That is a GOOD tip there!
Thanks Doug.
AC
Chris Madden said
Sep 27, 2012
I run into this at just about every house I clean.
I explain to the client what it is and that our
cleaning process will not take it off. I further explain that
the fungus Spore can be scraped off, but the remaining
mark will not come off. I send them a copy of the two attached
I have researched and talked to many lawn maintenance and pest control companies to
see if there is a Fungicide that can be sprayed on the mulch to treat it and kill the fungus.
Nothing of this kind exists today.
HINT HINT AC..............
You need to talk with your Chemist and see if this is something they are capable of manufacturing. This could be a Great upsell
service. Hope this helps guys.
Here is info from a post at the Grime Scene by Beth and Rod from back in 2003.
Gene Austin Philadelphia Inquirer March 3, 2001
If your siding, car, fence or any other surfaces around your house have broken out with a rash of black or dark-brown specks that do not want to come off, you are probably at war with something called artillery fungus.
It has become increasingly common in recent years, according to experts who have been seeking ways to control and eradicate it.
Artillery fungus, also called shotgun fungus or Sphaerobolus stellatus, usually originates in wood-chip mulch that is used around shrubs, flowers and other plants. Wet, rotting mulch breeds small mushrooms that shoot off spores for distances of up to 20 feet. The spores, which are sometimes mistaken for insect waste or bits of tar, cling tenaciously to surfaces such as house siding.
"It's just like Super Glue," said Don Davis, professor of plant pathology at Pennsylvania State University's College of Agricultural Sciences. Davis and Larry Kuhns, professor of horticulture, have been leading a five-year study of the fungus, and they expect the study to continue for several more years.
Davis said he gets 20 to 30calls a week during the fungus' most active seasons - generally spring and fall when temperatures range between 50 and 68 degrees.
Davis said the rapid spread of the fungus and the growing number of fungus-damaged homes appear to be linked to the growing use of mulches made from recycled hardwood scraps and tree stumps.
Homeowners can take a key step to control artillery fungus by cleaning up wood-chip mulch around the house and disposing of it before the shooting starts again in April or May.
Here are some additional tips:
• Control. Bark mulch appears to be more resistant to the fungus than wood-chip mulch. Davis said pine-bark chunks seem to be the most resistant, and cedar, redwood and cypress mulch also appear to be resistant. "Even these mulches should be replaced every few years," he said.
• Davis said stone mulch (usually small, decorative stones) "is the ultimate answer" to artillery fungus. Black plastic, held in place by stones or boards, is also safe, and some homeowners are getting good results with leaf mulch.
Kuhns said fungicides do not work well because "it's hard to determine when the mulch becomes infested, making the timing of the application . . . difficult."
• Insurance. If your house is damaged by artillery fungus, check with the agent handling your homeowners insurance. Most policies do not cover damage from fungus or mildew, but some do.
• Power-washing. Once the fungus becomes attached to a surface, even power-washing is not effective unless it is done within a few weeks of a fungal outbreak.
• One power-washing expert said he was able to remove the fungus using 200-degree water, with water pressure of 3,000 pounds per square inch, but this combination of hot water and high pressure can damage some types of siding.
• Scraping. Artillery fungus can be removed from windows by scraping with a razor blade. Scraping also can remove some of the black specks from smooth siding, but several homeowners who tried this reported that a brown residue remains and can't be removed. Scraping can gouge vinyl and painted siding.
Gene Austin welcomes readers' questions and comments, but he cannot give personal replies. Address correspondence to Gene Austin, the Philadelphia Inquirer, P.O. Box 8263, Philadelphia, PA 19101.
Thanks for all the responses. I swear I don't know if I can ever retain all the knowledge on this web site. It's really great.
AC Lockyer said
Sep 27, 2012
Chris Madden wrote:
I have researched and talked to many lawn maintenance and pest control companies to
see if there is a Fungicide that can be sprayed on the mulch to treat it and kill the fungus.
Nothing of this kind exists today.
HINT HINT AC..............
Chris,
I have a natural yard and get it sticking to my car. Prob wouldnt be a big deal if my teenage son washed the car every week like Ive asked him to. I didnt see the stuff down here in Florida till about 3 years ago.
Maybe I will add that to my honey do list for 2013.
AC
Jason Heath said
Sep 28, 2012
Doug Rucker wrote:
Whenever you are trying to remove the leftover stains with any type of chemical always do a test spot to make sure the chemical doesn't damage the vinyl. For removing on vinyl and glass I have found that using a handheld or pump sprayer mixed with a soap/surfactant then applied to the fungus and GENTLY scraped with a not to sharp PLASTIC putty knife will work. The soap make them very slippery and easier to remove. I have also found that using your pressure washer with and adjustable gun, and adjusting the flow down so you can get right up on the fungus works well too.
Anytime there is oxidation I do not remove the fungus, this can cause marks from the method of use to appear.
Changing the mulch to an inorganic mulch sometimes helps but not always.
We've washed a lot of oxidized vinyl with even, overlapping strokes with fiberglass poles and a good, high volume washer and they always look really nice. But man, that's a lot of work! I think we may have gotten one of those poles out like once in the last 2 years! lol
Alright guys here's a good one. I have artillary fungus on one side of my house and sofwashing didn't touch it. Looked at a job today and guess what, it's there too. From things I have read this is virtually impossible to remove even with a pressure washer and nobody seems to have the answer with chemicals. Anyone have advice?
AC
Any ideas on what to do with those annoying little stains left behind after picking them all off?
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser or Wesley's Tire Shine. I'd carry a little cleaning supplies tote that has all your little bag-o-trick items in it.
AC
AC
Anytime there is oxidation I do not remove the fungus, this can cause marks from the method of use to appear.
Changing the mulch to an inorganic mulch sometimes helps but not always.
That is a GOOD tip there!
Thanks Doug.
AC
I run into this at just about every house I clean.
I explain to the client what it is and that our
cleaning process will not take it off. I further explain that
the fungus Spore can be scraped off, but the remaining
mark will not come off. I send them a copy of the two attached
files you see below and the link below as well.
http://www.kypost.com/dpp/money/consumer/how-to-spot-shotgun-fungus-and-keep-it-from-leaving-its-mark-on-your-home-and-car
I have researched and talked to many lawn maintenance and pest control companies to
see if there is a Fungicide that can be sprayed on the mulch to treat it and kill the fungus.
Nothing of this kind exists today.
HINT HINT AC..............
You need to talk with your Chemist and see if this is something they are capable of manufacturing. This could be a Great upsell
service. Hope this helps guys.
Here is info from a post at the Grime Scene by Beth and Rod from back in 2003.
Gene Austin
Philadelphia Inquirer
March 3, 2001
If your siding, car, fence or any other surfaces around your house have broken out with a rash of black or dark-brown specks that do not want to come off, you are probably at war with something called artillery fungus.
It has become increasingly common in recent years, according to experts who have been seeking ways to control and eradicate it.
Artillery fungus, also called shotgun fungus or Sphaerobolus stellatus, usually originates in wood-chip mulch that is used around shrubs, flowers and other plants. Wet, rotting mulch breeds small mushrooms that shoot off spores for distances of up to 20 feet. The spores, which are sometimes mistaken for insect waste or bits of tar, cling tenaciously to surfaces such as house siding.
"It's just like Super Glue," said Don Davis, professor of plant pathology at Pennsylvania State University's College of Agricultural Sciences. Davis and Larry Kuhns, professor of horticulture, have been leading a five-year study of the fungus, and they expect the study to continue for several more years.
Davis said he gets 20 to 30calls a week during the fungus' most active seasons - generally spring and fall when temperatures range between 50 and 68 degrees.
Davis said the rapid spread of the fungus and the growing number of fungus-damaged homes appear to be linked to the growing use of mulches made from recycled hardwood scraps and tree stumps.
Homeowners can take a key step to control artillery fungus by cleaning up wood-chip mulch around the house and disposing of it before the shooting starts again in April or May.
Here are some additional tips:
• Control. Bark mulch appears to be more resistant to the fungus than wood-chip mulch. Davis said pine-bark chunks seem to be the most resistant, and cedar, redwood and cypress mulch also appear to be resistant. "Even these mulches should be replaced every few years," he said.
• Davis said stone mulch (usually small, decorative stones) "is the ultimate answer" to artillery fungus. Black plastic, held in place by stones or boards, is also safe, and some homeowners are getting good results with leaf mulch.
Kuhns said fungicides do not work well because "it's hard to determine when the mulch becomes infested, making the timing of the application . . . difficult."
• Insurance. If your house is damaged by artillery fungus, check with the agent handling your homeowners insurance. Most policies do not cover damage from fungus or mildew, but some do.
• Power-washing. Once the fungus becomes attached to a surface, even power-washing is not effective unless it is done within a few weeks of a fungal outbreak.
• One power-washing expert said he was able to remove the fungus using 200-degree water, with water pressure of 3,000 pounds per square inch, but this combination of hot water and high pressure can damage some types of siding.
• Scraping. Artillery fungus can be removed from windows by scraping with a razor blade. Scraping also can remove some of the black specks from smooth siding, but several homeowners who tried this reported that a brown residue remains and can't be removed. Scraping can gouge vinyl and painted siding.
Gene Austin welcomes readers' questions and comments, but he cannot give personal replies. Address correspondence to Gene Austin, the Philadelphia Inquirer, P.O. Box 8263, Philadelphia, PA 19101.
Thanks for all the responses. I swear I don't know if I can ever retain all the knowledge on this web site. It's really great.
Chris,
I have a natural yard and get it sticking to my car. Prob wouldnt be a big deal if my teenage son washed the car every week like Ive asked him to. I didnt see the stuff down here in Florida till about 3 years ago.
Maybe I will add that to my honey do list for 2013.
AC
We've washed a lot of oxidized vinyl with even, overlapping strokes with fiberglass poles and a good, high volume washer and they always look really nice. But man, that's a lot of work! I think we may have gotten one of those poles out like once in the last 2 years! lol