.I finally got to try out my gen2, worked great,,,BUUUT the roof did not turn out as plan..i used a 3%mix of ch and green wash appox 20 oz. roof slope 11/12. sprayed it twice...the after pic is after 3 days..and the streaks are still noticeable..any ideas or suggestions would be great..could it be that my mix was to thin and maybe need to add more GM..this is a family members house not a customers ....part 2 i used the same mix on there barn 1 coat and bingo turned out great...thank you in advance,,,ed forgot to mention this is a 30 gal mix....
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:35:25 PM
yeah, just hit it again . A lighter % mix requires more coats
Zach Maynard said
Apr 23, 2014
Yeah the wood will clean at a lesser strength. You need to either boost the CH a little bit or try augmenting.
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
john, you think a 4% would do it...
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:36:01 PM
Micheal Pumphrey said
Apr 23, 2014
How much bleach did you use vs water
John Smith said
Apr 23, 2014
I would think so, The stronger you make it, the faster it works. You can't mix ch to strong. It Doesn't kill plants
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
Zach, just watched your video nice work.. my mix just seem to be to runnie is that a word....seems i would need to thicken it up to slow the run off down..does that make sense....
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
MIKE, I USED THE FORMULA 3OZ PER GALLON 30 GALLON TANK 90 OZ...
Micheal Pumphrey said
Apr 23, 2014
Should have used around 15 gallons bleach to 50 gallons water. Can strengthen from there
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
THANKS MIKE
John Smith said
Apr 23, 2014
He's using CH
Micheal Pumphrey said
Apr 23, 2014
John Smith wrote:
He's using CH
I knew that formula looked familiar.
What "ch" are you using?
ive only used ch once. Not a fan at all
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
Mike 68 %
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:58:58 PM
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
The one mistake i did make was when i started to spray this roof. turn the pump on and just spraying up a storm going on great waited for 15 min to see if anything would happen nothing. then it dawned on me i never charged the system the only thing i was spraying was fresh water..DA...SO live and learn that would happen again...i hope
Tim Teed said
Apr 23, 2014
I've been using CH for the last month. I'm not sure, but I don't think CH works as well as SH when it is cold - or the water is still very cold. Try adding fresh n clear to the mix. Also try adding 1 cup roof snot to to your mix on the steep pitches.
Doug G said
Apr 23, 2014
DA....I like that...LOL
I had the same issue on my first job. I use SH and not CH but the end result is a clean roof so the concept is the same......meaning that my mix was too weak.
I keep playing with it and tweaking a bit here and there. I also found that your mix will become weak after as little as one day. I had a strong mix then went to shoot a demo a day and a half later with terrible results. I had to make a new batch just to shoot my demo.
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 23, 2014
tim i thought fresh and clear breakes the chlorine down:
Micheal Pumphrey said
Apr 23, 2014
Edward Yackenovich wrote:
tim i thought fresh and clear breakes the chlorine down:
No it superchargers it lol
Matt Jennemann said
Apr 23, 2014
It supercharges it for about 12 hours give or take until it uses up the chlorine in the mix then your left with salt water.
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 24, 2014
MATT, thanks for clearing that up...
Brandon Vaughn said
Apr 24, 2014
Tim Teed wrote:
I've been using CH for the last month. I'm not sure, but I don't think CH works as well as SH when it is cold - or the water is still very cold. Try adding fresh n clear to the mix. Also try adding 1 cup roof snot to to your mix on the steep pitches.
Tim you are right about CH not working as well as SH when it is cold. If it is under 50 degrees we will add a few ounces of Fresh n Clear to the mix. CH also is not as fast-acting as SH. And less is more - spray it in lighter coats and allow the oxygen to work.
AC Lockyer said
Apr 24, 2014
The CH that was left over and stored at the pool stores over the winter will not be as potent. If you use more there will be more haze. I'd recommend using some more Green Wash and some pixie dust. One more coat should do it as well.
AC
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 30, 2014
OK guys, washed with 4% do i need to go to 5...or is this as good as its going to get...see above for comparison.. the roof is dry when pic was taken. thanks
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 30th of April 2014 03:43:37 PM
You should be able to make it look brand new no question. If what you are using is old then what you think is 4% could actually be like 1%. It needs to be hit with a stronger mix most likely.
Michael Derose said
Apr 30, 2014
let it rain it just needs more rain.
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 30, 2014
Zach, i am using CH..I WILL make up another batch this time in a hand sprayer. check the strength ..then take it up from there...MIKE it is going to rain tonight will see what happens...thanks guys
AC Lockyer said
Apr 30, 2014
CH will not dissolve enough in cold water to make more than a 4% solution.
AC
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 30, 2014
AC, if i was to try some sh from the DG store at 6%.(since i cannot find any 12% for 150 miles)..how many gallons would i have to add TO a 30 gallon tank to get a 12% solution for a 3% MIX.or is that even possible....thanks
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 30th of April 2014 07:04:55 PM
Zach Maynard said
Apr 30, 2014
The question is really how fresh is this 6%. Is it fresh and 6% or is it old and far weaker. I would check to see if there are any local companies that can deliver.
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 30, 2014
ZACH, ALREADY DID LAST WINTER .SINCE I AM JUST STARTING UP THE SOFTWASH SIDE OF MY BUSINESS..NEED TO START SMALL AND GROW INTO IT. AND THE AMOUNT OF SH I WOULD HAVE TO START WITH IS .MORE THEN I WANT TO START OUT WITH IN CASE IT DOESN'T GET TRACTION. THE CH I AM USING IS FROM LESLIES POOL SUPPLY.I CALLED THE STORE WERE I BOUGHT IT AND HE ASSURED ME IT WAS FRESH..WRONG ANSWER SO HE SUGGESTED I BRING IN A SAMPLE AND THEY WOULD HAVE IT CHECKED......SO IN THE MEAN TIME I WOULD TRY STORE BOUGHT 6%....
Doug G said
Apr 30, 2014
Did you rinse?
John Aloisio said
Apr 30, 2014
Does the Leslie's store have five gallon chlorine pails? They should, just use that
Edward Yackenovich said
Apr 30, 2014
DOUG AND JOHN.NO TO BOTH....GOING TO MAKE UP A NEW BATCH AND GIVE IT SOME FRESH AND CLEAR...
.I finally got to try out my gen2, worked great,,,BUUUT the roof did not turn out as plan..i used a 3%mix of ch and green wash appox 20 oz. roof slope 11/12. sprayed it twice...the after pic is after 3 days..and the streaks are still noticeable..any ideas or suggestions would be great..could it be that my mix was to thin and maybe need to add more GM..this is a family members house not a customers ....part 2 i used the same mix on there barn 1 coat and bingo turned out great...thank you in advance,,,ed forgot to mention this is a 30 gal mix....
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:35:25 PM
john, you think a 4% would do it...
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:36:01 PM
Zach, just watched your video nice work.. my mix just seem to be to runnie is that a word....seems i would need to thicken it up to slow the run off down..does that make sense....
MIKE, I USED THE FORMULA 3OZ PER GALLON 30 GALLON TANK 90 OZ...
THANKS MIKE
I knew that formula looked familiar.
What "ch" are you using?
ive only used ch once. Not a fan at all
Mike 68 %
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 23rd of April 2014 06:58:58 PM
The one mistake i did make was when i started to spray this roof. turn the pump on and just spraying up a storm going on great waited for 15 min to see if anything would happen nothing. then it dawned on me i never charged the system the only thing i was spraying was fresh water..DA...SO live and learn that would happen again...i hope
I've been using CH for the last month. I'm not sure, but I don't think CH works as well as SH when it is cold - or the water is still very cold. Try adding fresh n clear to the mix. Also try adding 1 cup roof snot to to your mix on the steep pitches.
I had the same issue on my first job. I use SH and not CH but the end result is a clean roof so the concept is the same......meaning that my mix was too weak.
I keep playing with it and tweaking a bit here and there. I also found that your mix will become weak after as little as one day. I had a strong mix then went to shoot a demo a day and a half later with terrible results. I had to make a new batch just to shoot my demo.
tim i thought fresh and clear breakes the chlorine down:
No it superchargers it lol
MATT, thanks for clearing that up...
Tim you are right about CH not working as well as SH when it is cold. If it is under 50 degrees we will add a few ounces of Fresh n Clear to the mix. CH also is not as fast-acting as SH. And less is more - spray it in lighter coats and allow the oxygen to work.
AC
OK guys, washed with 4% do i need to go to 5...or is this as good as its going to get...see above for comparison.. the roof is dry when pic was taken. thanks
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 30th of April 2014 03:43:37 PM
Zach, i am using CH..I WILL make up another batch this time in a hand sprayer. check the strength ..then take it up from there...MIKE it is going to rain tonight will see what happens...thanks guys
AC
AC, if i was to try some sh from the DG store at 6%.(since i cannot find any 12% for 150 miles)..how many gallons would i have to add TO a 30 gallon tank to get a 12% solution for a 3% MIX.or is that even possible....thanks
-- Edited by Edward Yackenovich on Wednesday 30th of April 2014 07:04:55 PM
ZACH, ALREADY DID LAST WINTER .SINCE I AM JUST STARTING UP THE SOFTWASH SIDE OF MY BUSINESS..NEED TO START SMALL AND GROW INTO IT. AND THE AMOUNT OF SH I WOULD HAVE TO START WITH IS .MORE THEN I WANT TO START OUT WITH IN CASE IT DOESN'T GET TRACTION. THE CH I AM USING IS FROM LESLIES POOL SUPPLY.I CALLED THE STORE WERE I BOUGHT IT AND HE ASSURED ME IT WAS FRESH..WRONG ANSWER SO HE SUGGESTED I BRING IN A SAMPLE AND THEY WOULD HAVE IT CHECKED......SO IN THE MEAN TIME I WOULD TRY STORE BOUGHT 6%....
Does the Leslie's store have five gallon chlorine pails? They should, just use that
DOUG AND JOHN.NO TO BOTH....GOING TO MAKE UP A NEW BATCH AND GIVE IT SOME FRESH AND CLEAR...